Thursday, September 13, 2007

The Cedillo Omnibus hearing, by the numbers

The following is a guest blog contributed by a gracious anonymous reader who wanted to see a summary of the Cedillo hearing coverage. There were 2,916 pages of transcript, and something like 50+ hours of audio recording. Autism Diva had hit a sort of Autism Omnibus crash and burnout after reviewing that testimony (listening to Ms. Chin-Caplan, lawyer for the Cedillos, was particularly excruciating toward the end of the hearing, parts of Autism Diva's primary auditory cortex are still recovering). Autism Diva didn't have the desire to try to tie it all up in one post properly. So, here is gift from a less legality and measles morbidity and mortality beleaguered guest blogger. A brief summary of the Cedillo hearing:

It’s been nearly three months since the first part of the Autism Omnibus trial. Autism Diva did an amazing job (starting here) summarizing the day-by-day happenings. I thought it might be a good time to look back and summarize in one place what happened. Sort of the “Cliff’s Notes” version. (links are to Autism Diva’s blog—she is the gracious host after all. For a different take on the trial, check the a-champ blog).

Most cases of vaccine injury are handled according to a "table”. This lists known adverse reactions and makes it straightforward to demonstrate that an injury could have been caused by a vaccine. There is no table entry for autism—vaccine injury has never been proven in the court as a cause of autism. Consider that about 4,800 families are claiming vaccine injury caused autism and that the vaccine court only publishes about 40 decisions a year. It would take far too long to try them all individually. So the "omnibus"approach was taken where a few test cases will be presented as examples of the different ways that vaccine injury is proposed to cause autism. These cases would decide if table entries for autism should be created, and if so what they should be. Three proposed methods of vaccine injury causing autism will be explored: (1) mercury from vaccines; (2) the MMR (Mumps, Measles, Rubella) vaccine and (3) a combination of mercury in some vaccines and the MMR vaccine. This case was to explore possibility (3) cause the autism of Michelle Cedillo.

The vaccine court is a "no fault" court, so the testimony is mostly given by expert witnesses. These varied from (1) world experts in autism, Measles, and the laboratory methods used, to (2) doctors with direct experience with Michelle Cedillo and children with similar cases, to (3) professional expert witnesses who had problems even defending their own CV's.

The proposal was put forth that (1) Michelle was developing normally, (2) she received a vaccines with mercury which suppressed her immunity at the time she got her MMR vaccine, (3) this allowed the Measles in the vaccine to cause a real and persisting infection and (4) this persistent Measles infection resulted in brain damage that caused autism. The rebuttal witnesses argued that (1) Michelle showed signs of autism before her MMR vaccination, (2) there is no mechanism shown where mercury causes immunosuppression, especially seven months later, (3) evidence shows that people with suppressed immune systems do not catch measles from the vaccine, (4) People either recover from Measles or die from it—they don't have persistent infections and they don't develop autism, and (5) the data showing a persistent Measles infection were all false positives due to procedural mistakes and contamination.

There are still eight more cases to be heard on the three proposed scenarios for vaccine injury causing autism. Much of the evidence presented in the Cedillo case goes to the idea of whether the MMR can cause autism. So, this case will not only have an impact on the other mercury+MMR cases, but also on the MMR alone cases.

Autism Diva would add to the above, two (wordy) clarifications according to her understanding of testimony by Drs. Ward and Griffen regarding measles vaccine and a immunosuppressed people. Dr. Ward explained (on Day 8, starting on page 1805 that Zimbabwean children who were HIV positive received the measles vaccines unless they were obviously sick on the day they would otherwise have received the vaccine. So even though they had an immune problem already, they tolerated the measles vaccine. But Dr. Griffin explain starting on page 2793 that patients with AIDS (more seriously ill, with badly damaged immune systems) should not be given the measles vaccine because it's a live, but weakened, virus that their immune systems can't necessarily clear. So in those rare cases where people with profound immunosuppression from advanced AIDS can catch a vaccine strain measles infection from the vaccine that will hang around and eventually cause pneumonia, but not a brain infection. She explains on the next two pages why they give the measles virus to very young HIV infected babies, to give them a chance against the wild-type measles since there's a good chance that their immune system will continue to decline.

People can get a kind of persistent measles infection from wild-type measles, where the virus is not cleared out by the immune system, gets into the brain and sort of lives there quietly replicating and killing brain cells until it gets to a tipping point and takes off, killing more and more brain cells until the person dies (a rather horrible death) from subacute sclerosing panencephalitis, SSPE, described on page 2786 to 2788:

So my assumption of the pathogenesis, and as I say, we never are able to look, we don't have any animal models for this and we can't identify these kids at the time they get their infection and then find out what's happening, is that the virus probably enters the brain in those children at the time of the original infection. Again, often these children are said to have had mild measles, so you wonder whether they mounted a really appropriate immune response at that time. Then the virus, it must just replicate very slowly and spread very slowly through the nervous system through all those years and eventually the thought is it builds up to a threshold that is enough damage and enough virus replication that there are some symptoms.

Once that occurs, as I say, the virus is very widespread and essentially all of those children die, usually within a year or two of the onset of the neurologic symptoms.

Q. What are, you mentioned some intellectual deterioration. What are the other --

A. Intellectual deterioration. There are movement disorders. One thing that's known as myoclonus is a common one. They eventually become mute and bedridden. Really pretty profound and progressive change over that period of time. There's characteristic EEG abnormalities, what they call burst suppression pattern. So one of the ways of trying to diagnose it is that way. Another way to diagnose it is they often have very very high levels of antibody in the cerebrospinal fluid indicating that they're making an immune response locally to the virus that's present in the nervous system. Those are all the kinds of things one looks for.

The imaging CTs or MRIs show big ventricles, shrinking brain, basically.

Q. Necrosis?

A. Well, yes. You're getting cell death presumably due to the infection, the widespread infection that's in the brain. So it's really quite a characteristic picture which fortunately has essentially disappeared from the U.S. with immunization. We basically don't see this diseases any more.
Our guest blogger was correct in saying that measles virus does not hang around and cause autism, if it hangs around in the brain it destroys more and more brain cells until the poor person thus infected dies. And at any rate, there's no evidence than any autistic child ever had a persistent measles infection of any sort, though Dr. Wakefield claimed to have found measles in the guts and CSF of autistic children (and people with Crohn's disease), in fact he never did find any measles. They were a figment of his imagination, not unlike the fictional teapot orbiting the sun between mars and the earth that is too small to be seen by any telescope and the existence of which must be accepted with credulity or not at all.



Autism Diva
arbiting

14 Comments:

Blogger Schwartz said...

Autism Diva,

Do you know why Dr. Chadwick (who testified that he thought the results from the lab were incorrect and claimed to have been ignored by Wakefield) has not testified at the GMC hearing? I find it odd.

Also, one minor clarification on your post. Wakefield didn't propose that the Measles virus directly attacked the brain, but that it weakened the gut, which in turn caused leaky gut syndrome which subsequently resulted in brain distress.

I honestly can't remember, if the Omnibus Plaintiffs proposed the same mechanism or not.

9:59 PM  
Blogger Jennifer said...

Not AD, but it is my understanding that Dr. Chadwick might not be needed at the GMC hearing. The purpose of the GMC hearing is to decide whether Wakefield is guilty of professional misconduct. Issues such as whether he had proper approval for his studies, whether he had a conflict of interest in taking money from lawyers acting for supposed vaccine injured children, whether he retained and used human tissues without consent, etc. are the ones being examined. What is not being examined, as far as I understand, is whether the science itself is fatally flawed. So, maybe that is why Chadwick is not testifying.

4:05 AM  
Blogger Club 166 said...

Great summary! Thanks.

One minor typo in the transcript. The EEG finding referred to is "burst" suppression, not "birth" suppression.

Joe

9:02 AM  
Blogger Kassiane said...

Burst suppression is pretty much end stage of status epilepticus, IIRC...or end stage of treatment for PITA refractory status (when the choices are you seize or they put you in a coma with whacky brain waves). Totally not autism--which is kind of a "duuuuuuh"...

12:20 PM  
Blogger Schwartz said...

Jennifer,

Although I agree with the premise, it appears from my readings of the hearing/trial that the GMC is still trying to show (albeit unsuccessfully so far) poor scientific behaviour on the part of the doctors involved.

This is supported by the calling of Professor David Maxwell Salisbury, director of immunisation at the Department of Health by the GMC. Apparently, he spoke at length about the vaccine program, and the problems of creating alarm in the population through what he considered unsubstantiated claims linking MMR to vaccines. His sole purpose as a witness appeared to be an attempt to discredit the science. I would have thought that Chadwick who actually claims to have something concrete to discuss would have been a much better witness on that point. I find his lack of presence so far very strange.

I would also think that falsifying study results, or publishing incorrect ones, would surely qualify as professional misconduct as well.

3:47 PM  
Blogger Autism Diva said...

CliffNotes wrote:

Thanks for letting me use your bandwidth, Diva!

I think that Chadwick would be appropriate in the GMC hearing. He could point out that Wakefield knew that there were tests showing no link to the measles virus. Wakefield would at least have to address that.

4:50 PM  
Blogger _Arthur said...

(1) Michelle was developing normally

But she wasn't. 2 of the expert witnesses were able to show to the Masters clear and multiple signs of autism in baby Michelle from the Cedillos family videos, _before_ the MMR vaccine.

Which pretty much destroy the case for the vaccine as the causal agent, since her autism pre-dated the vaccine.

8:17 PM  
Blogger Jennifer said...

Schwartz,

I think there is a sharp distinction between the procedural aspects of doing research, and whether the research was correct or not. IMO, Wakefield is being assessed on the former, and not the latter. But, of course, any sensible person agrees that that the latter is the most important. It's a question of whether the research should have been done in the first place (IMO it should not) and whether the results, obtained without proper procedures in place were correct (which IMO, they were also not correct).

The whole thing stinks from beginning to end. Have you read the recent post from NotMercury where he highlights the finding that Wakefield once thought that asthma was caused by vaccines?

http://notmercury.blogspot.com/2007/09/epidemic.html

Follow the link to

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/1998/08/31feature.html

The guy has a long history!

7:42 PM  
Blogger Schwartz said...

Jennifer,

He is allowed to have as many theories as he wants, and since they haven't found a cause or cure for Asthma, you don't really know that he's wrong -- not that I believe it, but being purely objective, he is allowed to propose as many theories as he wants and science will eventually determine the truth if there are people willing to fund it.

Based on the evidence presented so far in the GMC hearing (a real trial, not a virtual one), I have only heard that the tests and procedures followed at the hospital were fully justified given the unknown nature of the GI problems the children were suffering from. From what I understand, the GMC's own witnesses have stated that numerous times. Given that the study was actually case based, this is exactly how one would go diagnosing an unknown problem.

I don't think you've read the trial correctly. He is actually accused of the following:

"In relation to the Legal Aid Board, Dr Wakefield is charged that:

He was dishonest, misleading and in breach of his duty in managing finances and in breach of his duty in accounting for funds.

In relation to research and Ethics Committee Approval, and in relation to eleven children whose cases were reported in the Lancet paper, Dr Wakefield is charged that:

He carried out research on children which did not meet the inclusion criteria laid down by the ethics committee, and who did not meet the time criteria of the study given approval.

He ‘ordered’ investigations to be carried out without the paediatric qualifications to do so. That such investigations and research were contrary to the clinical interests of the children involved. That he caused such investigations to be carried out without some children being assessed first by a neurological or psychiatric expert. That he caused some investigations to be carried out which were not clinically indicated.

In relation to the Lancet Paper (28 February 1998), Dr Wakefield is charged that:

In reporting a link between MMR and a regressive autistic state, as he did in the Lancet, he was dishonest, irresponsible and misleading."

I agree with AutismDiva, Chadwick is completely relevant to one of the aspects of the trial. Contrary to your post, he is most certainly on trial regarding the study results and subsequent publication despite several GMC witnesses stating that the study was well done and deserved to be published alongside the second study which was supposed to complement the first.

I just realized that it's the second study (never published) that Chadwick is relevent (it was the study showing the detection of Measles virus in the gut of the children). Perhaps he'll show up as the trial continues. We can only hope, because I would like to see the Wakefield defence answer those accusations in court.

8:31 PM  
Blogger Namrata, Vedabhyas said...

ldeHi

Greetings from Deepstambha, the virtual organization working towards an inclusive society!

To highlight the inspiring stories and experiences of how socio-medically disadvantaged people across the world with indomitable courage, faith and determinations are volunteering to create a better world, Deepstambha has launched a blog, http://deepstambha-lightforever.blogspot.com. Deepstambha is a virtual organization and believes in the need to promote an Inclusive Societies with equal opportunities for all.

To understand the issues and concerns of the socio- medically disadvantaged being highlighted in the blogosphere; Deepstambha is doing an online study. The study will help better understanding of the contents related to the socio- medically disadvantaged in the blogosphere, the types of related blogs, the issues highlighted in these blogs and whether they can lead to the promotion of an inclusive society.

We have a few questions which will help us conduct the study. We request you to spare a few moment of yours to respond to this questionnaire. As soon as we are able to compile the findings we will share our findings in our blog. We request you to support us in this endeavor of ours and answer the questions.

With warm regards,

Namrata Bansal,

Team leader,

Deepstambha

Following are the questions we request you to reply:

1) Do you think the blogosphere can contribute towards highlighting the issues and concerns of the persons with disability and the terminally ill? If yes, how?

2) Can blogs be part of efforts to promote an Inclusive Society?

3) What inspired you to start your blog?

4) What are the challenges you are facing in promoting your blog?

5) Do you consider the blog as one of your achievements? If yes, how?

6) Can blogs help raise resources? How can blogs be sustained over a period of time?

7) Is blog an effective medium through which you can connect to the persons with disability across the world? If yes, how?


Kindly mail us at positivespiritinlife@gmail.com

5:16 AM  
Blogger aspiemom said...

I think it's a very interesting theory. I've been wondering if people have moved on from thimerasol (sp, sorry) and looked into something else.

6:54 AM  
Blogger _Arthur said...

Mom, of course they blame sometimes Thimerosal, sometimes something else.

Sometimes, it is vaccines in general
Sometimes it is the MMR vaccine
Sometimes it is "heavy metals"
Sometimes it is aluminium too

Oh, and they also blame yeasts, bacteria & fungi in the gut.

High mercury levels: chelate
Low mercury levels: chelate
Normal mercury levels: chelate

Oh, and when chelation fails to "cure" your kid, try chemical castration AND chelation.

4:13 PM  
Blogger AngelaFerreira said...

Not sure about the vaccine... I think if there was no MMR vaccine theses children were still happening somehow...

1:52 PM  
Blogger Dadof6Autistickids said...

I found an 'Autism guide' for parents and teachers on

the website of the National Education Association

(NEA). It has a LOT of good info that parents should

make sure their school district and teachers of your

children have AND use. I thought you and or your readers would find it useful.

I have more details and the link on our blog.

http://autismbitestheblog.blogspot.com/

Good luck!

9:03 PM  

Links to this post:

Create a Link

<< Home

glass-banner
aut viam inveniam aut faciam